Open models recap: more on Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8, Xi's WAIC speech, distillation, the open-closed gap, and what's next
First item to pair Kimi K3 and Qwen 3.8 as rivals within the wider open-vs-closed model debate.
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Memeburn published a head-to-head comparison of Kimi K3 and Qwen 3.8 on August 9, the thread's first direct model-vs-model verdict.
Earlier contextThe story so far
A July 22 podcast recap first grouped Kimi K3 and Qwen 3.8 as rival open-weight entries in China's open-vs-closed AI debate. On August 4, Alibaba expanded Qwen 3.8 with a 2.4-trillion-parameter Max tier and a 27B variant aimed at coding and collaborative-agent use, positioning it as a direct Kimi K3 competitor.
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CONTEXT · Jul 22Podcast recap frames Kimi K3 and Qwen 3.8 as rival open-weight entries1 source · show source ▾
QWEN 3.8 EXPANDS · Aug 4Alibaba ships Qwen 3.8 Max (2.4T) and a 27B coding/agent tier1 source · show source ▾
[AINews] Qwen 3.8 Max(2.4T) and 27B, new open weights models for Coding and Cowork
Alibaba adds a 2.4T Max tier and a 27B coding/agent-focused variant, Qwen 3.8's first concrete expansion in this thread.
NOW · Aug 9Memeburn runs a direct Kimi K3 vs Qwen 3.8 comparison1 source · show source ▾
Kimi K3 vs Qwen 3.8: Which Open Weight Chinese AI is Better? - Memeburn
Memeburn's head-to-head is the thread's first direct comparison verdict between the two models.
Day 1 Wednesday, Jul 22, 2026
Open models recap: more on Kimi K3, Qwen 3.8, Xi's WAIC speech, distillation, the open-closed gap, and what's next
First item to pair Kimi K3 and Qwen 3.8 as rivals within the wider open-vs-closed model debate.
Day 2 Tuesday, Aug 4, 2026
[AINews] Qwen 3.8 Max(2.4T) and 27B, new open weights models for Coding and Cowork
Alibaba adds a 2.4T Max tier and a 27B coding/agent-focused variant, Qwen 3.8's first concrete expansion in this thread.
Day 3 Sunday, Aug 9, 2026
Kimi K3 vs Qwen 3.8: Which Open Weight Chinese AI is Better? - Memeburn
Memeburn's head-to-head is the thread's first direct comparison verdict between the two models.
What to watch — open questions
- Does Memeburn's head-to-head rely on independent benchmarks or vendor-published numbers?
- Does Qwen 3.8's 27B coding/agent tier hold up against Kimi K3 on real tool-use and coding workloads, not just headline comparisons?
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